Windows Authentication in Novell Netware Environment? 
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 Windows Authentication in Novell Netware Environment?

Has anyone implemented Windows Authentication in a Novell Netware
environment where you have no Windows domain controllers?  My initial answer
to whether this can be done or not has always been, "no", but I would hate
to say "no" just because it is something I have never tried to do and/or I
don't know how to do it.

I actually have a client whose security rules will not allow for SQL
standard security (paswords don't expire, etc.) and they have a large number
of COTS products which use SQL Server as their backend.  Any thoughts on
this would be greatly appreciated.

Matthew Bando



Sun, 19 Sep 2004 03:54:26 GMT
 Windows Authentication in Novell Netware Environment?

Matthew,

I've heard a long tie ago about a product that can sync NW accounts with NT accounts. As I
remember passwords as well. In fact, I think I read about it in an SQL Server context,but
probably the ol' 4.x/6.x days. Still, such an sw could create your NW accounts on an NT server
for which you use NT logins. Whether it has to be a DC of a standalone server depends on that
sw, I guess. I'm afraid I have no pointers to the SW, though...

--
Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
Please reply to the newsgroup only, not by email.


Quote:
> Has anyone implemented Windows Authentication in a Novell Netware
> environment where you have no Windows domain controllers?  My initial answer
> to whether this can be done or not has always been, "no", but I would hate
> to say "no" just because it is something I have never tried to do and/or I
> don't know how to do it.

> I actually have a client whose security rules will not allow for SQL
> standard security (paswords don't expire, etc.) and they have a large number
> of COTS products which use SQL Server as their backend.  Any thoughts on
> this would be greatly appreciated.

> Matthew Bando




Sun, 19 Sep 2004 17:19:30 GMT
 Windows Authentication in Novell Netware Environment?
I'm pretty sure that both Microsoft and Novell had products that did
something like this.  I think it was Directory Services for Netware or
something like that.  Unfortunately, the client has some wacky security
constraints where they might not allow the duplication of accounts from the
Novell NDS directory.

Thanks Tibor!

Matthew Bando



Quote:
> Matthew,

> I've heard a long tie ago about a product that can sync NW accounts with
NT accounts. As I
> remember passwords as well. In fact, I think I read about it in an SQL
Server context,but
> probably the ol' 4.x/6.x days. Still, such an sw could create your NW

accounts on an NT server
Quote:
> for which you use NT logins. Whether it has to be a DC of a standalone

server depends on that
Quote:
> sw, I guess. I'm afraid I have no pointers to the SW, though...

> --
> Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
> Please reply to the newsgroup only, not by email.



> > Has anyone implemented Windows Authentication in a Novell Netware
> > environment where you have no Windows domain controllers?  My initial
answer
> > to whether this can be done or not has always been, "no", but I would
hate
> > to say "no" just because it is something I have never tried to do and/or
I
> > don't know how to do it.

> > I actually have a client whose security rules will not allow for SQL
> > standard security (paswords don't expire, etc.) and they have a large
number
> > of COTS products which use SQL Server as their backend.  Any thoughts on
> > this would be greatly appreciated.

> > Matthew Bando




Sun, 19 Sep 2004 20:44:27 GMT
 Windows Authentication in Novell Netware Environment?
On Tue, 2 Apr 2002 14:54:26 -0500, "Matthew Bando"

Quote:

>Has anyone implemented Windows Authentication in a Novell Netware
>environment where you have no Windows domain controllers?  

That will never work - the whole concept of Windows Authentication is
based on the fact that the user is authenticated by means of a Windows
domain - no domain, no way it can be authenticated.

What you could be doing (and we've done this for Oracle, since they
don't have anything anywhere near as elegant as Windows
Authentication) is creating user accounts in SQL Server with a
password that you can calculate, this providing "seamless" logons
(e.g. logons where the user doesn't have to provide user name and
password). Works quite well with prime numbers and a public key like
approach.

Marc



Sun, 19 Sep 2004 23:06:58 GMT
 
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