Theoretical Question: What would you buy? 
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 Theoretical Question: What would you buy?
I may soon be given the task of designing a web site for my company.
One of the requirements will be database access.  My question is, what
Java development environment, which database, and which JDBC-ODBC bridge
program (if required), would you buy?  Which would you stay away from?

The volume of data and number of accesses will not be huge.

Everything will be running on a Windows NT 4 server.

Thanks for your help
Jim Dresser



Mon, 17 Dec 2001 03:00:00 GMT
 Theoretical Question: What would you buy?

Quote:

> The volume of data and number of accesses will not be huge.

You need to quantify that ;-)

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> Everything will be running on a Windows NT 4 server.

I can recommend PowerJ from Sybase, it includes the JConnect JDBC
drivers and everything else to get servlets up and running.

Ulrich

--
Ulrich Mayring
DENIC eg, Anwendungsentwicklung



Mon, 17 Dec 2001 03:00:00 GMT
 Theoretical Question: What would you buy?
Symantec Cafe Database Edition should have everything you need.

Filip


Quote:
> I may soon be given the task of designing a web site for my company.
> One of the requirements will be database access.  My question is, what
> Java development environment, which database, and which JDBC-ODBC bridge
> program (if required), would you buy?  Which would you stay away from?

> The volume of data and number of accesses will not be huge.

> Everything will be running on a Windows NT 4 server.

> Thanks for your help
> Jim Dresser



Mon, 17 Dec 2001 03:00:00 GMT
 Theoretical Question: What would you buy?
Forget Java if you are about to implement a web site. Of course, applets can
add some extra functionality but I'd choose Lotus Domino server. Domino
offers automatic HMTL generation, relational database, visual designing
tools etc. You can also include Java applets and serverside agents,
servlets, LotusScript agents and so on. Database data can be directly
referenced with formulas and indexes in form objects. See
www.lotus.com/domino for more information.

++Jarkko

Quote:
>I may soon be given the task of designing a web site for my company.
>One of the requirements will be database access.  My question is, what
>Java development environment, which database, and which JDBC-ODBC bridge
>program (if required), would you buy?  Which would you stay away from?



Tue, 18 Dec 2001 03:00:00 GMT
 Theoretical Question: What would you buy?
if your tight on money and don't want to get tied into
a single vendor solution.

check out http://java.apache.org

ECS1.0 will make your html genration tasks simpler.

jw

On Fri, 2 Jul 1999 02:25:33 +0300, "Jarkko Viinam?ki"

Quote:

>Forget Java if you are about to implement a web site. Of course, applets can
>add some extra functionality but I'd choose Lotus Domino server. Domino
>offers automatic HMTL generation, relational database, visual designing
>tools etc. You can also include Java applets and serverside agents,
>servlets, LotusScript agents and so on. Database data can be directly
>referenced with formulas and indexes in form objects. See
>www.lotus.com/domino for more information.

>++Jarkko

>>I may soon be given the task of designing a web site for my company.
>>One of the requirements will be database access.  My question is, what
>>Java development environment, which database, and which JDBC-ODBC bridge
>>program (if required), would you buy?  Which would you stay away from?



Tue, 18 Dec 2001 03:00:00 GMT
 Theoretical Question: What would you buy?

Quote:

> I may soon be given the task of designing a web site for my company.
> One of the requirements will be database access.  My question is, what
> Java development environment, which database, and which JDBC-ODBC bridge
> program (if required), would you buy?  Which would you stay away from?

> The volume of data and number of accesses will not be huge.

> Everything will be running on a Windows NT 4 server.

> Thanks for your help
> Jim Dresser

Linux + jdk (from blackdown.org + mySQL

And I would stay away from NT4 ;-)

Eric



Tue, 18 Dec 2001 03:00:00 GMT
 Theoretical Question: What would you buy?
On Fri, 2 Jul 1999 02:25:33 +0300, "Jarkko Viinam?ki"

Quote:

>Forget Java if you are about to implement a web site. Of course, applets can
>add some extra functionality but I'd choose Lotus Domino server. Domino
>offers automatic HMTL generation, relational database, visual designing

no: this is definitly not correct. Domino offers no relational
database. you may misuse Domino databases in this way, but even the
Domino documentation warns to do so.

in fact: Domino offers a bridge to access and synchronize with RDBMS
products, the former Notes-Pump.

Quote:
>tools etc. You can also include Java applets and serverside agents,
>servlets, LotusScript agents and so on. Database data can be directly
>referenced with formulas and indexes in form objects. See
>www.lotus.com/domino for more information.

generally I agree that Notes/Domino could be a good solution. but dont
forget to tell him the disadvantages:

for his project he would need:

- Notes/Domino Server
- some RDBMS product
- Java IDE

this becomes a really expensive thing. so if money is not the point,
or if he is thinking about a notes implementation in his office this
is a good idea.

though you should not forget another problem: you need to have
Notes/Domino know how, and this is no trivial point!!

so in general there is another interesting possiblity;

use Apache (should run on NT to, sigh) and check the Jakarta project:
here Sun and the Apache team are implementing the servlet / JSP (Java
Server Pages) in Apache. it is not ready, though your project is just
starting and you could try to work out this solution.

Alex



Thu, 20 Dec 2001 03:00:00 GMT
 Theoretical Question: What would you buy?

Quote:

> Forget Java if you are about to implement a web site. Of course, applets can
> add some extra functionality but I'd choose Lotus Domino server. Domino
> offers automatic HMTL generation, relational database, visual designing
> tools etc. You can also include Java applets and serverside agents,
> servlets, LotusScript agents and so on. Database data can be directly
> referenced with formulas and indexes in form objects. See
> www.lotus.com/domino for more information.

> ++Jarkko

I absolutely agree with Jarkko. We have Lotus Domino server running as a
collaboration server for our department, and it really makes things work... and
it makes things work EASILY  :-)

Alexander

Quote:

> >I may soon be given the task of designing a web site for my company.
> >One of the requirements will be database access.  My question is, what
> >Java development environment, which database, and which JDBC-ODBC bridge
> >program (if required), would you buy?  Which would you stay away from?



Tue, 25 Dec 2001 03:00:00 GMT
 Theoretical Question: What would you buy?

Quote:


> > Forget Java if you are about to implement a web site.

Forget Java? isn't this a Java newsgroup?

Quote:
> Of course, applets can
> > add some extra functionality but I'd choose Lotus Domino server.

sounds like a Lotus commercial.

Quote:
> Domino
> > offers automatic HMTL generation, relational database, visual designing
> > tools etc. You can also include Java applets and serverside agents,
> > servlets, LotusScript agents and so on.

didn't you just say forget Java?
I don't get it.  I guess you can either shell out big bucks for a commercial
server
and forget a technology you're already comfortable with, or you can get some
real nice GPL software that will do the same job, and doesn't cost a dime.

IMO, Apache is a good web server,
MySQL is a good database server,
GPL is a good concept,
and server-side is where java kicks {*filter*}(especially when you decide you're
not happy with your server anymore and want to upgrade)

- M



Tue, 25 Dec 2001 03:00:00 GMT
 Theoretical Question: What would you buy?

Quote:
> I may soon be given the task of designing a web site for my company.
> One of the requirements will be database access.  My question is, what
> Java development environment,

That depends on your work style.  I personally like working in emacs.

Quote:
> which database,

mSQL or MySQL if your data model is simple and mostly read-oriented.

Oracle if you have a complex data model or complex transactional needs.

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> and which JDBC-ODBC bridge

None. Never ever use a JDBC-ODBC bridge technology.

Go with a JDBC driver that talks with the database in its own tongue.



Wed, 26 Dec 2001 03:00:00 GMT
 Theoretical Question: What would you buy?
On Sat, 10 Jul 1999 22:12:45 -0500, "George Reese"

Quote:

>> I may soon be given the task of designing a web site for my company.
>> One of the requirements will be database access.  My question is, what
>> Java development environment,

For a list of JDBC/SQL vendors and approximate prices, see JDBC in the
Java glossary at http://mindprod.com and read the corresponding essay.

Stop the Makah Whale Sacrifice <http://mindprod.com/whale.html>
--
Roedy Green,  Canadian Mind Products
-30-



Thu, 27 Dec 2001 03:00:00 GMT
 
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