Developing/Running NewEra 2.12 on NT ? 
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 Developing/Running NewEra 2.12 on NT ?

Hello world.

Apologies in advance for asking what seems (even to me) to be a very familiar
question, but I've checked the FAQ for a definitive answer and there wasn't
one, so...

Can you develop and run using NewEra 2.12 on Windows NT ?,

and the supplementary question is,

Can you run the resulting executables on Win3.1/3.11/95 ?

We're about to upgrade from 2.00 to 2.12, and I'd like to recommend ditching
Windows 3.11 at the same time if we can.  It seems to be agreed that Win95
is ok with NE 2.12 (although I can't hearing whether the executables will work
on 3.1/3.11), but we don't want to go to 95 when an eventual move to NT seems
inevitable.

The other rumor we heard was that NE2.12 + WinNT was ok except for a bug in
NMAKE (!) which trashed the error files after compiler errors; we develop in
Pcode so this doesn't sound like a huge problem.

Thanks in advance, hopefully.

--

Laboratory Systems, Melbourne, Australia.       Fax   +61 3 9894 3338



Wed, 18 Jun 1902 08:00:00 GMT
 Developing/Running NewEra 2.12 on NT ?

Quote:

> Hello world.

> Apologies in advance for asking what seems (even to me) to be a very familiar
> question, but I've checked the FAQ for a definitive answer and there wasn't
> one, so...

> Can you develop and run using NewEra 2.12 on Windows NT ?,

> and the supplementary question is,

> Can you run the resulting executables on Win3.1/3.11/95 ?

> We're about to upgrade from 2.00 to 2.12, and I'd like to recommend ditching
> Windows 3.11 at the same time if we can.  It seems to be agreed that Win95
> is ok with NE 2.12 (although I can't hearing whether the executables will work
> on 3.1/3.11), but we don't want to go to 95 when an eventual move to NT seems
> inevitable.

> The other rumor we heard was that NE2.12 + WinNT was ok except for a bug in
> NMAKE (!) which trashed the error files after compiler errors; we develop in
> Pcode so this doesn't sound like a huge problem.

Well I did some work in Windows 95 and I assume the experience is
similar for NT.  You at least you don't run out of resources all the
time and have to reboot, and the programs do run on Windows 3.11.  You
do need the newer 32 bit version of NMake which comes with Visual C++
version 2, which can also be found at the Microsoft site.

Next you will need to set an Environment variable IXBLDENV=WIN95 (I do
this in Autoexec.bat).  This will cause your make files to use start
rather than ix to start programs.

Finally I found that the Application Builder is great for generating the
make files, but useless at running them.  I use A/B to create make
files, but then run DOS and do a nmake -f eis.mak in the appropriate
directory.  The end result is quit fast and very satisfactory.

I would stick with dual booting Windows 3.11 and 95 or NT all the same.

Oliver Townshend
Sashalom Pty Limited
Delphi, New Era 2 Consulting Services



Wed, 18 Jun 1902 08:00:00 GMT
 Developing/Running NewEra 2.12 on NT ?


Quote:


>> > [my snip questions about NewEra on NT, including possible nmake probs]
>> [snip Oliver's reply]
> [snip explanation about FGLC fault and new copy (!) of FGLC...]

Thanks a lot, Mathew.  Not quite what I'd expected but I ain't
complaining...  Just hope the "no-binary" curmudgeons don't start
hassling you.

--


Laboratory Systems, Melbourne, Australia.       Fax   +61 3 9894 3338



Wed, 18 Jun 1902 08:00:00 GMT
 Developing/Running NewEra 2.12 on NT ?

Quote:


> > Hello world.

> > Apologies in advance for asking what seems (even to me) to be a very familiar
> > question, but I've checked the FAQ for a definitive answer and there wasn't
> > one, so...

> > Can you develop and run using NewEra 2.12 on Windows NT ?,

> > and the supplementary question is,

> > Can you run the resulting executables on Win3.1/3.11/95 ?

> > We're about to upgrade from 2.00 to 2.12, and I'd like to recommend ditching
> > Windows 3.11 at the same time if we can.  It seems to be agreed that Win95
> > is ok with NE 2.12 (although I can't hearing whether the executables will work
> > on 3.1/3.11), but we don't want to go to 95 when an eventual move to NT seems
> > inevitable.

> > The other rumor we heard was that NE2.12 + WinNT was ok except for a bug in
> > NMAKE (!) which trashed the error files after compiler errors; we develop in
> > Pcode so this doesn't sound like a huge problem.

> Well I did some work in Windows 95 and I assume the experience is
> similar for NT.  You at least you don't run out of resources all the
> time and have to reboot, and the programs do run on Windows 3.11.  You
> do need the newer 32 bit version of NMake which comes with Visual C++
> version 2, which can also be found at the Microsoft site.

> Next you will need to set an Environment variable IXBLDENV=WIN95 (I do
> this in Autoexec.bat).  This will cause your make files to use start
> rather than ix to start programs.

> Finally I found that the Application Builder is great for generating the
> make files, but useless at running them.  I use A/B to create make
> files, but then run DOS and do a nmake -f eis.mak in the appropriate
> directory.  The end result is quit fast and very satisfactory.

> I would stick with dual booting Windows 3.11 and 95 or NT all the same.

Here is what happenes, NMAKE has an error, and there is a fix for it
from
microsoft, this ONLY works with Windows 95. The problem under NT, is
that
FGLC.EXE does not return the error code to NMAKE (and doesnt even return
it to a command prompt).

I fixed this, since we needed to use newera properly and without that
hassle..

I fixed it with a program which replaces FGLC.EXE, the old one being
renamed
to OLDFGLC.EXE . The program checks for the existance of the .err file
and
if it exists then the correct error code is returned to the NMAKE which
stops
the make.

The problem supprisingly is not one of microsofts, but Informix..

Attached is the .exe file..

--

 Mathew Dredge
 CSE (NZ) Ltd.
 Software Developer
---------------------------------------------

    URL: http://www.wave.co.nz/pages/mdredge  
  Phone: +64-7-838 2010
    Fax: +64-7-838 0977
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  fglc.exe
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Wed, 18 Jun 1902 08:00:00 GMT
 Developing/Running NewEra 2.12 on NT ?

Quote:




> >> > [my snip questions about NewEra on NT, including possible nmake probs]

> >> [snip Oliver's reply]

> > [snip explanation about FGLC fault and new copy (!) of FGLC...]

> Thanks a lot, Mathew.  Not quite what I'd expected but I ain't
> complaining...  Just hope the "no-binary" curmudgeons don't start
> hassling you.

None yet, just some news servers who dont accept the large messages..
as I say..

Like I care..
--

 Mathew Dredge
 CSE (NZ) Ltd.
 Software Developer
---------------------------------------------

    URL: http://www.wave.co.nz/pages/mdredge  
  Phone: +64-7-838 2010
    Fax: +64-7-838 0977
---------------------------------------------



Wed, 18 Jun 1902 08:00:00 GMT
 
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