developer vs. filemaker pro 
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 developer vs. filemaker pro

Dearest people
I have a series of questions relating to a data base system that i am
proposing... these are as follows

BRIEF OVERVIEW
The final product will be a system that records history,
generates graphical reports and  may provide future trends.
It will use data from measuring instruments, like a weather
stations, or pull this data off relevant websites - either manually or by
using scripting.
Palmtops may be used to enter data 'in the field' to be synced later.

STRUCTURE
1)  If I ended up with 10 or more separate db files, does that ring alarm
bells as to the file structure? ie. a separate db file for each 'module'.

2)  Does it make a difference to the relationships, reporting, speed, etc?
- to me, the separate modules seem very different to each other, so I would
split them up.

REPORTING
3)  Can I use FM Pro to export to Excel, where a graph or chart is created,
then show the graph back in the FM Pro layout somehow? AND...

4)  ...can that function/scripting be made to seem seamless to the user?
- I guess there are a few 3rd party plug-ins available to perform graphical
reporting inside the solution.

DEVELOPER or not
5)  From what I can make out, Developer is most suited to client-server
solutions and publishing on the web.

6)  Is Developer only required at the end of programming, to create a
standalone runtime application (if we wanted to)? OR...

7)  ...is the majority of the programming (define fields, layouts, calcs)
completed in FM Pro or Developer?

8)  Are there any other useful features besides creating a standalone app,
that would be handy in the  programming/design? I think FM Pro has all of
the layout features that I would require.

STANDALONE RUNTIME APPLICATION vs. FM PRO SOLUTION
9)  Does the standalone application have all of the functionality of FM Pro?
eg. searching, sorting, reporting and the standard *menu items*?
What are the pros & cons of creating a standalone application:

10)  When an upgrade to the standalone is made available by me, are there
any
problems with 'upgrading' to use the newly supplied standalone app?
- I assume a script can be written to do the upgrade transfer
- I know it can't network or host
- there may be limitations syncing with a Palm Pilot
- security levels in a FM Pro solution would stop users being able to change
the integrity of the files anyway

LICENSING/LEGAL
I understand a standalone app is royalty free.

11)  Are there any restrictions on selling FM Pro solutions (not standalone
apps.) besides buying a registered version of FM Pro?

The main question is whether I need to buy Developer
initially to start the beta and testing phases of the project. If I find I
need it later, I can always buy it.
I'm also deciding the merits of producing a standalone runtime application
versus a FM Pro solution. Standalone = cheaper price for the user (no FM Pro
to buy), but may sacrifice functionality and flexibility.

I know there's a lot of questions there but if any one feels like attacking
them with their wisdom i would be very appreciative...

thanks..
Graeme Perrin



Mon, 25 Aug 2003 00:19:25 GMT
 developer vs. filemaker pro

Quote:

> STRUCTURE
> 1)  If I ended up with 10 or more separate db files, does that ring alarm
> bells as to the file structure? ie. a separate db file for each 'module'.

I'm not familiar with palm but it has a file limit you will want to check
on. For FMP the file limit is 50.

Quote:
> 2)  Does it make a difference to the relationships, reporting, speed, etc?
> DEVELOPER or not
> 6)  Is Developer only required at the end of programming, to create a
> standalone runtime application (if we wanted to)? OR...
> 5)  From what I can make out, Developer is most suited to client-server
> solutions and publishing on the web.
> 7)  ...is the majority of the programming (define fields, layouts, calcs)
> completed in FM Pro or Developer?
> 8)  Are there any other useful features besides creating a standalone app,
> that would be handy in the  programming/design? I think FM Pro has all of
> the layout features that I would require.

I think these are actually the same question. Developer edition is a package
bundle of two separate things: FMP and a set of developer tools. In other
words there is no Developer edition of FMP, it comes with a regular copy of
FMP. The developer tool allows for the binding of runtimes, creation of
kiosk (full screen) files, making files un-modifiable in a particularly
permanent way (as a preparation for distribution), changing file names with
out braking relationships, etc., Source code license agreement and
documentation for creating plugins. Additionally it comes with some custom
web publishing documentation and a CDML tool (not too hot). You do not need
developer to do custom web publishing- you can probably get the
documentation elsewhere. Developer is not a server- look to FMP server and
FMP unlimited for that.

Quote:
> REPORTING
> 3)  Can I use FM Pro to export to Excel, where a graph or chart is
created,
> then show the graph back in the FM Pro layout somehow? AND...
> 4)  ...can that function/scripting be made to seem seamless to the user?
> - I guess there are a few 3rd party plug-ins available to perform
graphical
> reporting inside the solution.

Yes and Yes, but... FMP can exert control over an external app using windows
interaplication messaging protocol (pc) and something similar for the Mac
but I don't remember the name. This can be limited so, depending on your
needs, you may have to get in to VB/Apple script. At any rate, this will not
be cross platform deployable, and if your hoping for that "out of the box"
eases of use you may not find it here.

Quote:
> STANDALONE RUNTIME APPLICATION vs. FM PRO SOLUTION
> 9)  Does the standalone application have all of the functionality of FM
Pro?
> eg. searching, sorting, reporting and the standard *menu items*?
> What are the pros & cons of creating a standalone application:

You are free to distribute/use runtimes- they don't require FMP or a
license. You can't modify layouts, scripts, relationships of files once they
are bound. One can't web publish or network a runtime (people have found
ways/plugins to do it, but it's not an inclusive feature). Otherwise the
functionality is there.

Quote:
> 10)  When an upgrade to the standalone is made available by me, are there
> any
> problems with 'upgrading' to use the newly supplied standalone app?
> - I assume a script can be written to do the upgrade transfer
> - I know it can't network or host
> - there may be limitations syncing with a Palm Pilot
> - security levels in a FM Pro solution would stop users being able to
change
> the integrity of the files anyway

You need to include an import/export script in the runtime, you move the
date over not alter the files. I don't know about palm.

Quote:
> LICENSING/LEGAL
> I understand a standalone app is royalty free.
> 11)  Are there any restrictions on selling FM Pro solutions (not
standalone
> apps.) besides buying a registered version of FM Pro?

Distributing runtimes and FMP files is royalty free.

--
Alex Lorda



Mon, 25 Aug 2003 11:45:07 GMT
 developer vs. filemaker pro


Quote:


> > Dearest people
> > I have a series of questions relating to a data base system that i am
> > proposing... these are as follows
> > BRIEF OVERVIEW
> > The final product will be a system that records history,
> > generates graphical reports and  may provide future trends.
> > It will use data from measuring instruments, like a weather
> > stations, or pull this data off relevant websites - either manually or by
> > using scripting.
> > Palmtops may be used to enter data 'in the field' to be synced later.
> > STRUCTURE
> > 1)  If I ended up with 10 or more separate db files, does that ring alarm
> > bells as to the file structure? ie. a separate db file for each 'module'.

> I'm not familiar with palm but it has a file limit you will want to check
> on. For FMP the file limit is 50.

Take a look at FM sync for JFile Pro rather than FM mobile.

- Show quoted text -

Quote:
> > 2)  Does it make a difference to the relationships, reporting, speed, etc?
> > DEVELOPER or not
> > 6)  Is Developer only required at the end of programming, to create a
> > standalone runtime application (if we wanted to)? OR...
> > 5)  From what I can make out, Developer is most suited to client-server
> > solutions and publishing on the web.
> > 7)  ...is the majority of the programming (define fields, layouts, calcs)
> > completed in FM Pro or Developer?
> > 8)  Are there any other useful features besides creating a standalone app,
> > that would be handy in the  programming/design? I think FM Pro has all of
> > the layout features that I would require.

> I think these are actually the same question. Developer edition is a package
> bundle of two separate things: FMP and a set of developer tools. In other
> words there is no Developer edition of FMP, it comes with a regular copy of
> FMP. The developer tool allows for the binding of runtimes, creation of
> kiosk (full screen) files, making files un-modifiable in a particularly
> permanent way (as a preparation for distribution), changing file names with
> out braking relationships, etc., Source code license agreement and
> documentation for creating plugins. Additionally it comes with some custom
> web publishing documentation and a CDML tool (not too hot). You do not need
> developer to do custom web publishing- you can probably get the
> documentation elsewhere. Developer is not a server- look to FMP server and
> FMP unlimited for that.

> > REPORTING
> > 3)  Can I use FM Pro to export to Excel, where a graph or chart is
> created,
> > then show the graph back in the FM Pro layout somehow? AND...
> > 4)  ...can that function/scripting be made to seem seamless to the user?
> > - I guess there are a few 3rd party plug-ins available to perform
> graphical
> > reporting inside the solution.

> Yes and Yes, but... FMP can exert control over an external app using windows
> interaplication messaging protocol (pc) and something similar for the Mac
> but I don't remember the name. This can be limited so, depending on your
> needs, you may have to get in to VB/Apple script. At any rate, this will not
> be cross platform deployable, and if your hoping for that "out of the box"
> eases of use you may not find it here.

Take a look at the xmCHART plugin from x2 Max software (http://www.x2max.com), that plug-in
gives charting power right in FM

- Show quoted text -

Quote:

> > STANDALONE RUNTIME APPLICATION vs. FM PRO SOLUTION
> > 9)  Does the standalone application have all of the functionality of FM
> Pro?
> > eg. searching, sorting, reporting and the standard *menu items*?
> > What are the pros & cons of creating a standalone application:

> You are free to distribute/use runtimes- they don't require FMP or a
> license. You can't modify layouts, scripts, relationships of files once they
> are bound. One can't web publish or network a runtime (people have found
> ways/plugins to do it, but it's not an inclusive feature). Otherwise the
> functionality is there.

> > 10)  When an upgrade to the standalone is made available by me, are there
> > any
> > problems with 'upgrading' to use the newly supplied standalone app?
> > - I assume a script can be written to do the upgrade transfer
> > - I know it can't network or host
> > - there may be limitations syncing with a Palm Pilot
> > - security levels in a FM Pro solution would stop users being able to
> change
> > the integrity of the files anyway
> You need to include an import/export script in the runtime, you move the
> date over not alter the files. I don't know about palm.

> > LICENSING/LEGAL
> > I understand a standalone app is royalty free.
> > 11)  Are there any restrictions on selling FM Pro solutions (not
> standalone
> > apps.) besides buying a registered version of FM Pro?

> Distributing runtimes and FMP files is royalty free.

> --
> Alex Lorda



Mon, 25 Aug 2003 16:19:21 GMT
 
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